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Periodic high latency....

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:18 pm
by jjonsson
I have just upgraded all switches to v1.4.4 firmware. I don't know if it's a firmware issue. Could also be that the reboot has changed something, so that something is not configured correct.

Result is poor network performance. Looks to me like a loop ? (Loop protections is enabled)


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Sometimes is like 1200 ms.....


This is ongoing......

Completely switched network.

Any help is appreciated....

Re: Periodic high latency....

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:49 pm
by sirhc
If you're going to upgrade why not go for v1.4.5rc2 which has nothing new just bug fixes for bugs reported in v1.4.4?

How can we help?

You need to provide a LOT more information.

What version did you upgrade from?

Are you sure this intermittent high ping did not exist prior?

You're going to have to start at the head end and work your way through your network looking for where the latency starts.

You can try disabling features in the Device/COnfiguration Tab to see if any feature is causing it.

Features like:
Discovery
Discovery Tab
SMTP
SNMP
FTP Backup

Re: Periodic high latency....

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:56 pm
by jjonsson
sirhc wrote:If you're going to upgrade why not go for v1.4.5rc2 which has nothing new just bug fixes for bugs reported in v1.4.4?


Ok, I can upgrade to that version....


sirhc wrote:How can we help?
You need to provide a LOT more information.


Yes, could you maybe point me in the right direction. I have checked that no loops should be present.

sirhc wrote:What version did you upgrade from?

v1.3.9

sirhc wrote:Are you sure this intermittent high ping did not exist prior?
No, I actually think is was there before upgrading. Maybe because of configuration error somewhere...

sirhc wrote:You're going to have to start at the head end and work your way through your network looking for where the latency starts.

Since it's a complete flat switched network it is everywhere, also at head end and far end...

sirhc wrote:You can try disabling features in the Device/COnfiguration Tab to see if any feature is causing it.

Features like:
Discovery
Discovery Tab
SMTP
SNMP
FTP Backup


OK, will give that a try....

I was started converting this network to fully routed. But had to rollback as I thought that was what causing the latency spikes...

Re: Periodic high latency....

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:27 pm
by sirhc
No if it it existed with 1.3.9 it is not any of the services I mentioned.

What makes you think this is a switch issue?

You have a large flat network, chances are this is some intermittent traffic.

Re: Periodic high latency....

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:31 pm
by jjonsson
sirhc wrote:What makes you think this is a switch issue?

You have a large flat network, chances are this is some intermittent traffic.


Because work on the network the last several times has all been around the switches.

Can you explain what you mean by "intermittent traffic" ?

Re: Periodic high latency....

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:26 pm
by sirhc
jjonsson wrote:Because work on the network the last several times has all been around the switches.

Well that could be a coincidence. I have no idea how your network is setup but you want me to tell you what your problem is?

jjonsson wrote:Can you explain what you mean by "intermittent traffic" ?


What you show below is intermittent congestion which could be caused by MANY things.
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Sometimes is like 1200 ms.....


Personally I think you have some sort of traffic occurring such as broadcast storm or maybe BitTorrent traffic.

I would try starting at the front end and shut down further out links and see if the latency spikes stop and if so move further out shutting the next segments down and then when I isolate the segment I think is the problem I would try shutting down AP's one at a time to see if I could find the source.

Disable segments and APs by simply disabling the Ethernet port not turning the POE off that way it is quicker to restore normal traffic.

Another thing you can try is disabling Flow Control on back haul radios. So far radios with KNOWN Flow Control bugs are airFIBER and epmp 2000.

I do not think this is a switch issue.

Re: Periodic high latency....

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:18 pm
by jjonsson
Reboot of all switches and the error is gone....

If this was a loop prevented by the loop protection, can I see that in the log file of the switch ? If yes, what to look for ?

Re: Periodic high latency....

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:42 pm
by jjonsson
Hmm....

No problem is back :-(

Could anyone please suggest something here ?

Re: Periodic high latency....

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:47 pm
by jjonsson
@sirhc....

Disabling FC on AF24 link seems to fix the problem....

Re: Periodic high latency....

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:20 am
by jjonsson
Further investigation reveals that firmware 1.4.4 and FC enabled on port on switch and in device is no go suddenly......

I will try downgrade to 1.3.9 again.

Looks like UBNT also have an issue with FC. Most devices show huge amount of pause frames on switch ports.