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48 port WS?

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:17 pm
by rebelwireless
you wouldn't happen to be releasing a 48 port WS soon? I'm doing a bid for a phone system and I'd love to put a 48 port WS in instead of the Cisco 'smart' switches I typically use. obvious 802.11af compliant...

Re: 48 port WS?

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:06 am
by wayneorack
I would buy some of those! I am hoping for a WS-24-400A that is 802.11af compliant...

It is kinda like Christmas Eve around here!

Re: 48 port WS?

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:13 pm
by Dave
wayne

I would buy some of those! I am hoping for a WS-24-400A that is 802.11af compliant...

It is kinda like Christmas Eve around here!


Do you mean only active POE, or active & passive?...and are you also looking for SFP+ in same unit??

Dave

Re: 48 port WS?

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:27 pm
by wayneorack
Active and passive in the same unit. SFP+ not required but would not turn me away.

There of plenty of switches that do active just fine. The WISP does passive just right, I would like to have it both ways.

Re: 48 port WS?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:48 pm
by rebelwireless
Dave, I may be stretching out your target customer here... But I do a number of passive AND active devices outside the wISP business.

I want active AND passive, because I do a lot of IP phones PoE and Unifi APs, as well as PtP links for campus extension etc.

I buy the Cisco SG220-50p for about $780. Then I'm torn whether to buy the instant PoE adapters, or to put in a passive PoE switch.

If you guys dropped a decently priced active+passive 48 port unit, I'd be all over it.

as far as SFP+, I think a model that added 1-2 SFP+ would be great for when there are more than 48 ports needed...

A well priced WS....maybe call it a IS (infrastructure switch) or ES (enterprise switch).... could compete well here.

Re: 48 port WS?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:55 pm
by sirhc
rebelwireless wrote:as far as SFP+, I think a model that added 1-2 SFP+ would be great for when there are more than 48 ports needed...


My thought here was that (4) SFP+ ports would be nice that way you have enough 10G ports for servers and talking to other switches?????

I was thinking if we had an ES-52-400-AC with (4) SFP+ ports active and passive POE for around $999.95????
(2) Ports capable of 48VH passive
All 48 copper ports capable of 802.3af 15 watts - DO WE NEED POE+ 802.3af/at 25 watts?????
All 48 copper ports capable of 24V .75A passive POE

This would be based on a BETTER SOC than the EdgeMAX 48 and have (2) more SFP+ ports for the same price and be able to power 2 AF24 type radios or WS-6-MINI. Also capable of hundreds of static routes and maybe OSPF with BFD????

As far as 24 port maybe just add 802.3af to existing WS-24-400A switch and call it WS-24-400-AC for $649.95
The new unit would be smaller than existing WS-24-400A

Re: 48 port WS?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:16 pm
by wayneorack
sirhc wrote:As far as 24 port maybe just add 802.3af to existing WS-24-400A switch and call it WS-24-400-AC for $649.95
The new unit would be smaller than existing WS-24-400A


That is what I'm looking for. But, I may not represent the market very well.
I'll be buying 5 WISP switches this week. I wish they had this feature. Maybe next time.

Re: 48 port WS?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:24 pm
by sirhc
wayneorack wrote:
sirhc wrote:As far as 24 port maybe just add 802.3af to existing WS-24-400A switch and call it WS-24-400-AC for $649.95
The new unit would be smaller than existing WS-24-400A


That is what I'm looking for. But, I may not represent the market very well.
I'll be buying 5 WISP switches this week. I wish they had this feature. Maybe next time.


I appreciate that you think we move that fast Wayne :oops: but to do this will take months, maybe by mid/late summer?

A LOT of work to do this.

Re: 48 port WS?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:49 pm
by wayneorack
sirhc wrote:
wayneorack wrote:
sirhc wrote:As far as 24 port maybe just add 802.3af to existing WS-24-400A switch and call it WS-24-400-AC for $649.95
The new unit would be smaller than existing WS-24-400A


That is what I'm looking for. But, I may not represent the market very well.
I'll be buying 5 WISP switches this week. I wish they had this feature.[color=#ffff00] Maybe next time.[/color].


I appreciate that you think we move that fast Wayne :oops: but to do this will take months, maybe by mid/late summer?

A LOT of work to do this.


I don't see why you thought I was expecting those features any time soon. Just trying to share my thoughts...

I appreciate the fact your equipment spends quality time in development. I need solid equipment for this project, that is why I am buying WISP switches. I do not have any equipment that they will not run. This project has a mixture of power requirements. Active POE would make the deployment simpler, but would not allow me to do anything that the current switches will not allow.

Last week, I bought two Cisco SG220-50p
for phone systems and would have bought ES-52-400-AC switches instead if that had been an option. The
Cisco SG220-50p is a Layer 2 switch. I bought it because it was the cheapest switch that had the features I needed. Most 48 port POE switches are layer 3. Layer 3 is nice, but seems like most of the time it has a lot of unused/unneeded features.

Please keep up the great work! I think you are doing a great job of covering the WISP market!

Re: 48 port WS?

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:57 am
by rebelwireless
Last week, I bought two Cisco SG220-50p
for phone systems and would have bought
ES-52-400-AC switches instead if that had been an option. The
Cisco SG220-50p is a Layer 2 switch. I bought it because it was the cheapest switch that had the features I needed. Most 48 port POE switches are layer 3. Layer 3 is nice, but seems like most of the time it has a lot of unused/unneeded features. Please keep up the great work! I think you are doing a great job of covering the WISP market!


I had to re-read the beginning because I thought I might have written that post haha!

Same here, I'm buying SG220-50p to get the PoE(af) ports for phones (and unifi) . All I really need is VLANS, VLAN QoS, LACP, and PoE. I run the phones on their own switch, then pass a VLAN from the phone 'pc' port out 1-2 ports to their hardware.

It would be amazing to have a 24 and 48 port netonix that could take over!