Water Tower leasing/installs
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WisTech - Associate
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Re: Water Tower leasing/installs
Definitely sounds more than fair, especially if you can pick up a good percentage of the area!
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Re: Water Tower leasing/installs
I read over the contract last night, and one thing stood out.
"All costs for required structural studies will be paid by COMPANY within 30 days of receipt of a detailed invoice."
How much can that run? I don't want to sign up for $400/m, then get an invoice for $5,000 for a structural study.
I am not using any new mounts, only the mounts and poles that are already in place, and my equipment is smaller than the cell carriers equipment, do you think I can argue that no structural is needed as I am using mounts already in place and with smaller gear?
"All costs for required structural studies will be paid by COMPANY within 30 days of receipt of a detailed invoice."
How much can that run? I don't want to sign up for $400/m, then get an invoice for $5,000 for a structural study.
I am not using any new mounts, only the mounts and poles that are already in place, and my equipment is smaller than the cell carriers equipment, do you think I can argue that no structural is needed as I am using mounts already in place and with smaller gear?
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Re: Water Tower leasing/installs
We always got that part removed, depends if they actually do it but engineering costs can be expensive.
It is standard wording to have that in the lease but sometimes they do get engineering studies which could be 3-6K
It is standard wording to have that in the lease but sometimes they do get engineering studies which could be 3-6K
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Re: Water Tower leasing/installs
The water towers that we are on (city owned) have "crowns" installed on them by various cell companies. The engineering was completed when the crown was built and welded to the tank. We use the existing mounts like you are indicating, which are included in the original engineering. We've never been asked to provide additional engineering. Almost one time, but then they agreed to remove it.
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Re: Water Tower leasing/installs
rebelwireless wrote:How tall is the water tower? Generally speaking, you have 50' AGL before you need a permit, and also generally speaking if you want under <=75' it's very hard to be denied when filing for a permit. Local ordinances that block this have to be extremely specific in their justification for denials.
Can you back that up? I'm not questioning you, just curious where you're pulling it from -- would be good to know.
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rebelwireless - Experienced Member
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Re: Water Tower leasing/installs
primarily in Title 47, 332/7/B describing local authorities power to limit and what they must to do deny.
I'm looking for the 50' height rule now as I don't seem to have it in my documents folder. That's actually not part of FCC regulations, it's part of general land owners rights and the 75' was something to do with requiring a building permit and a fire inspection due to the chance it falls over and isn't federal law, but a guideline generally adopted. I said generally because there are examples of people being denied building permits for 'structures' as low as 30' due to local ordinances, but those are easy to fight when it's a communication based structure because you take them to court and the judge is bound by Title47 rules and the local authority probably made their decision outside of those rules.
I'm looking for the 50' height rule now as I don't seem to have it in my documents folder. That's actually not part of FCC regulations, it's part of general land owners rights and the 75' was something to do with requiring a building permit and a fire inspection due to the chance it falls over and isn't federal law, but a guideline generally adopted. I said generally because there are examples of people being denied building permits for 'structures' as low as 30' due to local ordinances, but those are easy to fight when it's a communication based structure because you take them to court and the judge is bound by Title47 rules and the local authority probably made their decision outside of those rules.
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