I will add it to the Spec sheet
If you go to our web site the plug dimensions are there as the 3rd picture.
http://www.netonix.com/wisp-switch/ws-6-mini.html
WS-6-MINI Barrel connector
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Re: WS-6-MINI jack dimensions and polarity
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Re: WS-6-MINI jack dimensions and polarity
sirhc wrote:I will add it to the Spec sheet
If you go to our web site the plug dimensions are there as the 3rd picture.
http://www.netonix.com/wisp-switch/ws-6-mini.html
Thanks! Do you confirm the ebay power supply has the right polarity?
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Re: WS-6-MINI jack dimensions and polarity
te31 wrote:sirhc wrote:I will add it to the Spec sheet
If you go to our web site the plug dimensions are there as the 3rd picture.
http://www.netonix.com/wisp-switch/ws-6-mini.html
Thanks! Do you confirm the ebay power supply has the right polarity?
What eBay Power Supply are you talking about?
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Re: WS-6-MINI jack dimensions and polarity
sirhc wrote:te31 wrote:sirhc wrote:I will add it to the Spec sheet
If you go to our web site the plug dimensions are there as the 3rd picture.
http://www.netonix.com/wisp-switch/ws-6-mini.html
Thanks! Do you confirm the ebay power supply has the right polarity?
What eBay Power Supply are you talking about?
The one linked in my first post:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-100V-240V-Co ... 1238460213
AC 100V-240V Converter Adapter DC 48V 2A 96W Power Supply Charger DC 5.5mm New
Thanks!
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Re: WS-6-MINI Barrel connector
Well they say
So Polarity is correct, center pin (+)
And our center pin requirement is 2.5mm
Should work.
Output : DC 48V 2A / 2000mA 96W
Out put adaptor jack size 5.5mm x 2.5mm
the adapters Connector inside positive (+)outside negative (-)
So Polarity is correct, center pin (+)
And our center pin requirement is 2.5mm
Should work.
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Re: WS-6-MINI Barrel connector
You must have slammed it in then? I have several rb800's and they all power up by the standard barrel connector I have in the hundreds. They are all the same, Mikrotik, Ubiquity, Netgear, TP-Link. Basically for any thing that gets 12V up to 24V the barrels in this industry uses these barrels.ste wrote:The Mikrotik gige poeadapter works. There is the smaller barrelconnector.
But they DON'T fit the WS-6-MINI...
I was just lucky to have one absolute Ubiquity Carrier 48V PoE Adapter for an airFiber that I could use. I'll have to order a extra one for each extre MINI I bought.... so that comes on top of the already highly prices unit.
For the price these boxes should come with their own adapter or be at least compatible with other barrels.
(By the way, same "ste" as from Mikrotik forum?)
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Re: WS-6-MINI Barrel connector
They are not overpriced for what is in them, in fact with the new lower price of $149.95 USD our profit margin is VERY THIN!
We do now sell an optional barrel adapter power supply but the main idea with the MINI is it will be powered by another WISP Switch.
Can you find another switch that size that has "all" the same functions for less?
It has the same switch core basically as our larger switches. The ToughSwitch 5 is based on a SOHO BCM-53115 and it's successor switch core which by Broadcom's own web site that Switch Core was designed for SOHO applications not Enterprise or Carrier.
Also to allow the switch to operate in 55C environments we had to use more expensive PCB material, and components.
We could take away the following and lower the price significantly
Use a cheaper PCB Material that is not rated for high temperatures and save $1.00 US
Half the MOSFET circuits and the 48V to 24V DC to DC converter and only allow one POE voltage (the one you feed it) and save $10.00 US
Take away the current and temperature sensors and save $5.00 US
Take away the Thermal pad used to bond the PCB to the Chassis to allow the metal chassis to serve as a large heat sink to allow hotter operations and save $3.00 US
Take out the $12 Switch core and put in a $5 switch core like the BCM-53115 used in the TS5 and save $7.00 US
Take out the through hole Polyfuses used to elevate them off the PCB to allow warmer operations and replace with cheaper SMT Polyfuses and Save $5.00 US
Get rid of the $10 Metal Chassis and decal and use a $3 Plastic Chassis if not used as a heat sink and Save $7.00 US
Take out the Polarity correction circuit that allows it to be powered by AF24 POE bricks or MINIMOS POE Bricks and save $3.00 US
Take out the voltage isolation circuit providing 1500V isolation from the POE power and SOC power and DC negative to AC Earth Ground (Chassis Lug or ESD) like the TS5 and TS8 and bond the AC Earth Ground to the DC negative plane and save $5.00 US
OK, now that we have stripped out all the creature features we can now sell this for $70.00 US....OH WAIT, why would I buy this then over any other $70 switch again?
People want a Cadillac but they only want to pay for a KIA.
We do now sell an optional barrel adapter power supply but the main idea with the MINI is it will be powered by another WISP Switch.
Can you find another switch that size that has "all" the same functions for less?
It has the same switch core basically as our larger switches. The ToughSwitch 5 is based on a SOHO BCM-53115 and it's successor switch core which by Broadcom's own web site that Switch Core was designed for SOHO applications not Enterprise or Carrier.
Also to allow the switch to operate in 55C environments we had to use more expensive PCB material, and components.
We could take away the following and lower the price significantly
Use a cheaper PCB Material that is not rated for high temperatures and save $1.00 US
Half the MOSFET circuits and the 48V to 24V DC to DC converter and only allow one POE voltage (the one you feed it) and save $10.00 US
Take away the current and temperature sensors and save $5.00 US
Take away the Thermal pad used to bond the PCB to the Chassis to allow the metal chassis to serve as a large heat sink to allow hotter operations and save $3.00 US
Take out the $12 Switch core and put in a $5 switch core like the BCM-53115 used in the TS5 and save $7.00 US
Take out the through hole Polyfuses used to elevate them off the PCB to allow warmer operations and replace with cheaper SMT Polyfuses and Save $5.00 US
Get rid of the $10 Metal Chassis and decal and use a $3 Plastic Chassis if not used as a heat sink and Save $7.00 US
Take out the Polarity correction circuit that allows it to be powered by AF24 POE bricks or MINIMOS POE Bricks and save $3.00 US
Take out the voltage isolation circuit providing 1500V isolation from the POE power and SOC power and DC negative to AC Earth Ground (Chassis Lug or ESD) like the TS5 and TS8 and bond the AC Earth Ground to the DC negative plane and save $5.00 US
OK, now that we have stripped out all the creature features we can now sell this for $70.00 US....OH WAIT, why would I buy this then over any other $70 switch again?
People want a Cadillac but they only want to pay for a KIA.
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Re: WS-6-MINI Barrel connector
What... did someone just say the unit is 'expensive' for $150?! LOL We're talking Carrier Grade vs. SOHO core components here. There is a substantial difference between a TS-5 and the 6-Mini. I have a number of 6-Minis deployed in outdoor enclosures withstanding 108º summer in direct sunlight, I'm pretty sure a TS5 would blow it's brains out under the same circumstances which is why I don't even stock any Toughswitch products anymore.
Re: WS-6-MINI Barrel connector
If your application will work with a 48V power supply and you're ok not having a grounded AC adapter, I found a one that works and fits. I'm sure it's not as good as the netonix unit , and it costs more, but it will probably get you by in a pinch. I picked up a few for condo project we're working on.
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDet ... 03-Level-V
You'll also need the AC power cord that is linked on the page.
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDet ... 03-Level-V
You'll also need the AC power cord that is linked on the page.
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Re: WS-6-MINI Barrel connector
JUST wanted to put my 2 cents since I spent some time on this issue myself. Most stuff we use has a 2.1mm barrel connector but this Netonix switch uses the 2.5mm barrel connector. This is one of the standard sizes for CCTV equipment. Just check out ebay, there are even 2.1mm to 2.5mm adapters very cheap.
And requarding the 48v vs 50v power brick, I bought one of the old Ubiquiti 50Vdc 1.2Amp power bricks model GP-C500-12G Injectors to power my switch but I don't like using any 120vac bricks in the field and I could not find any cheap battery to 50v adapters so I did some testing with a 48v power brick and found that as long as you dont source any 48v devices from the switch it works just fine sourcing all of the Ubiquiti 24v POE radios. In fact it runs at the same 24v output voltage reguardless of which power brick I tested the switch with. However, if I try to turn on the 48v output option using a 48v brick to power the switch I noted a 1.6V drop which in my case resulted in 47.0 volts on the switch port. Frankly I seriously doubt that it makes any difference having the slight drop in voltage. Connectors, long cable runs, High current on 26AWG ethernet wire, etc is more of a concern. I'm sure the Ubiquiti radios allow for some small amount of variance anyway. Personally I think I will buy an inline ehternet power meter (amazon) and test the voltage at the radio against the radio's spec sheet just to make sure I'm getting enough voltage to the device.
And requarding the 48v vs 50v power brick, I bought one of the old Ubiquiti 50Vdc 1.2Amp power bricks model GP-C500-12G Injectors to power my switch but I don't like using any 120vac bricks in the field and I could not find any cheap battery to 50v adapters so I did some testing with a 48v power brick and found that as long as you dont source any 48v devices from the switch it works just fine sourcing all of the Ubiquiti 24v POE radios. In fact it runs at the same 24v output voltage reguardless of which power brick I tested the switch with. However, if I try to turn on the 48v output option using a 48v brick to power the switch I noted a 1.6V drop which in my case resulted in 47.0 volts on the switch port. Frankly I seriously doubt that it makes any difference having the slight drop in voltage. Connectors, long cable runs, High current on 26AWG ethernet wire, etc is more of a concern. I'm sure the Ubiquiti radios allow for some small amount of variance anyway. Personally I think I will buy an inline ehternet power meter (amazon) and test the voltage at the radio against the radio's spec sheet just to make sure I'm getting enough voltage to the device.
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